Everything changed the moment of Caitlyn Jenner’s big reveal a few years back. Emblazoned on the cover of Vanity Fair, the prominent statement, “Call Me Caitlyn” also spurred a considerable amount of friction between the former Olympian and her now-grown children.
The truth is hard to come by in the celebrity world but over the past few years, the Kardashians have been the most vocal about the decline of their relationship with their father. Despite publicly being “Team Bruce” for a long time, Khloé is the one who has been the most on the outs with her father since the transition. Despite all this, Caitlyn recently made a very bold claim when asked about Kim, Khloé, Kourtney and the rest of the children,
“My relationship is good with them.”
While it may be easy to believe her words on the surface, all the details from the past years don’t have fans convinced that everything is suddenly sunshine and butterflies (no pun intended to Kylie).
Throughout all the ups, downs and unresolved feelings, it’s hard not to wonder if the New Year might not usher in a new chapter in the Caitlyn saga with regards to her relationship with her children.
25 She Excluded Kim, Kourtney & Khloé
It’s not often that the Kardashian sisters find themselves excluded from anything and yet since October 2016, Caitlyn Jenner hasn't posted a single picture of either Kim, Kourtney or Khloé. There's not a single picture of either one of her grandchildren either and you especially won't find a cute picture of True Thomson (Khloe's daughter). In fact, the only picture that can be found one of Caitlyn's grandchildren goes back to Mother's Day 2018 and even then, it's a picture of Kylie's daughter Stormi Webster. Let's not forget that while Kylie is Caitlyn's biological child, the other three Kardashian sisters are not.
24 And Yet, She Walked Both Khloé & Kim Down The Aisle
Just six years prior to making her big reveal, Caitlyn Jenner walked Khloe down the aisle. Khloé’s marriage to Lamar Odom lasted longer than most anticipated but the fact that her father was there to walk her down the aisle still speaks volumes about the relationship they had. The same goes for Kim. A source told US Magazine that “the former Olympic athlete, 64, walked his stepdaughter down the aisle as she made her way to the altar” back in 2014, just one year before the big news.
Fast-forward a few years and Caitlyn's relationship isn't the same as Bruce's was. So what happened?
23 She Kept The Kardashians In The Dark
After Caitlyn made her big reveal in a 20/20 interview with Diane Sawyer in April 2015, Khloé later spoke candidly to Ellen Degeneres saying,
"We kept asking him, 'Bruce, like what's going on? We're hearing all these rumors?' and he kept telling us one thing but really he knew he was transitioning and wouldn't be honest with us."
"So really we felt like the last to know so that was hard for us, especially me."
These are sentiments that the other Kardashian sisters echoed as well, especially Kim.
22 They Got The News From The Media And Not From Caitlyn Directly
As a result of hearing the news from the media and not from their father directly, things were still a little frosty between the Kardashians and Caitlyn by the time October 2016 rolled around.
But the question here is whether their mother, Kris Jenner, may have influenced the swaying of the tide in the opposite direction.
As reported by E! News, Kris was particularly upset upon finding out Kim helped Caitlyn get ready for the EPSYS back in July. After Kim told her mom she was just going to “try to stay neutral,” Kris replied back, “I want loyalty, I don’t want […] neutral. I'm trying to be as gracious as I can, I'm trying to be as understanding as I can [...] I've been [deceived] on so many levels that your head would spin.”
21 Cait’s Book Was The Last Drop
Just when fans didn’t think the relationship between Caitlyn Jenner and her children could get any more sour, the release of her tell-all book, “The Secrets of My Life,” then further drove a wedge between them.
Everyone from Kris, all the way to the Kardashian and Jenner children then denounce the book for being fake. After two months of staying silent on the matter, even Kendall has shared her thoughts saying,
“I spoke to Kim about Dad's book and heard about all the stuff she was saying in it and how a lot of it is so not true. The weird part is I don't think it's purposeful lying, I think she really just thinks that's what happened... and then she goes around [being disrespectful to] the Kardashians but those are the kids that you raised, if you have a problem with them you raised them.
"It makes no sense to me that she would go around [doing this] for no reason."
20 Did Kris Know?
A big point of contention with regards to the book is a claim Caitlyn made with regards to Kris.
“I tell Kris about my gender issues before [doing anything private]. This will always be a subject of dispute between us.”
For her part, Kris has vehemently denied knowing about anything and insists she was taken by surprise. She told Page Six, “I was curious and said, ‘What […] is going on?’ She said, ‘You just would never understand,'” And then, all through the book, ‘Kris knew. Kris knew […].’ I’m like, ‘What?'”
19 Caitlyn Kept Putting Off The Procedure Because She Had Kids To Father
In a recent Broadly interview, Caitlyn Jenner revealed, “Kris and I got married and I kind of hid it the best that I could.”
Whether that goes against the claim that Kris knew or not back then is anyone’s guess but she also shared a story saying that back when Kendall was born, she felt too self-conscious to go swimming as a result of her chest. Claiming she went through a procedure to get rid of her most womanly feature at the time, she added that it eased her emotional distress,
“I cried. But I also had made the decision; it wasn’t time. I still had kids to raise.”
18 Kim Had Walked In On Caitlyn Before Caitlyn Was Ready To Come Out
So did Kris know or not? It’s unclear but Kim’s recent revelation may be shining a small light on the contentious point.
Just this past October, Kim told Alec Baldwin on his ABC talk show how she found about Caitlyn way before the big reveal.
“I found out when I was maybe 25,” she said. “My mom was out of town and I walked in on Caitlyn all dressed up … as a woman in the garage at my mom’s house. I ran inside, packed a bag so fast, shaking, and ran out and called Kourtney.”
She also added that her father asked her not to say anything to anyone, especially not Kris, “One day I’ll sit down and I’ll explain this all to you, but until then, please don’t tell a soul and please don’t tell your mother.”
Yet, as we already covered, Caitlyn claims Kris knew since the ‘80s.
17 Once Again, The Media Was The First To Know
It goes without saying that Caitlyn and Kris’ Jenner on the matter really put their now-grown children in the middle. However, there’s another revelation in the book that put the kids on edge. Not only did Caitlyn’s kids have to read from the news that their father had come out as a woman but they also later and once again, learned from the media that Caitlyn had revealed in her book she underwent gender reassignment.
Should Caitlyn have told her children first?
16 But Cait Is Unrelenting In Her Conviction That It's Really No One's Business
No, she doesn’t believe she should have. In fact, according to Cosmopolitan, she told Piers Morgan, "No I didn’t tell anybody. Why? It’s none of their business. It’s not that big a deal. Nobody knows. I had to be honest, the book is about honesty.
After Piers asks, "Have you now lost all relationship with all the Kardashians?" Cait replies: "Yeah. I don't talk to them anymore."
"I had not talked to any of the kids on that side. Kris probably a year and Kim about nine months and Kourtney - I have not talked to them either,” she concludes.
15 It’s Also Not That Surprising
Then again, is it all that surprising that she didn’t tell anyone and went straight to the media with the information instead?
On a panel discussion of WEtv's "Real Love: Relationship Reality TV's Past, Present & Future,” Caitlyn candidly said,
“Some of the best conversations I've ever had with my kids happened on camera."
A bold claim, for sure, but it could also be part of the reason as to why she didn’t tell them ahead of time as perhaps the cameras simply won’t rolling then.
14 Khloé Has Been Iced The Most
Clearly, a lot has happened between the Kardashian-Jenner children and Caitlyn Jenner but out of everyone, there’s only one who has been slighted the most: Khloe Kardashian.
Just a few months before giving birth to her daughter True, the Daily Mail reported that when Ross King asked if, “having a child affect[s] anything between you and Caitlyn?” she replied,
“It won’t change anything.”
“'I don’t think it affects anything with Caitlyn. Things are just as they are,” she also added.”
13 The Biggest Snub Came On Mother’s Day
Caitlyn undoubtedly took Khloe’s comments to heart because a few short months later, she infamously snubbed her step-daughter in a Mother’s Day post.
US Magazine reported that Caitlyn shared “a never-before-seen image of daughter Kylie Jenner cradling her baby girl Stormi and a snap of Caitlyn hugging Kris.”
She also gushed, “So blessed to have so many amazing moms in my life!”
One new mother was noticeably missing from the sweet Mother’s Day post: you guessed it, Khloé Kardashian and her baby True.
12 She’s Amazed Kim Has Managed To Stay Relevant
The past couple of years have certainly been rocky for everybody. However, Caitlyn interestingly recently told Sherri Shepherd, “My relationship is good with them.”
And yet, in the same discussion, she also said, “Take Kimberly. She has been doing this show for like, 12 or 13 years now and has stayed relevant for that entire time. Thirteen years of staying relevant. … That’s amazing to me that she has stayed relevant.”
“Kimberly has been out there and she’s extremely smart — all my kids [are],” she continued.
Something tells us the relationship isn’t going to stay good for long.
11 Caitlyn Has Said She Only Cares About Bio Kids
She may have tried to say that her relationship with her kids is “good” now but a certain comment she made at the beginning of the year likely won’t be forgotten any time soon.
“It was a little uncomfortable. I called Kendall the next day and said, 'You know what it was a good icebreaker'. The only ones I am concerned about are Kendall and Kylie. They are my biological kids. I spent 23 years carting them around,” she said.
10 She Has Been Open About Who Her Favorite Child Is
With that, she has also been particularly transparent about who her favorite child is. Parents aren’t supposed to play favorites and yet, this past Father’s Day, she posted on social media saying,
“OK here it is, my favorite daughter right now,' she said. 'Why? 'Cause it’s Father’s Day and she's the only one that invited me over and what are we doing? Watching the NBA finals,” she said according to the Daily Mail.
Perhaps that has something to do with Kylie’s previous admittance that she prefers Caitlyn over Bruce.
9 Yet, Cait Has Also Made Her Opinions Known About Kylie
Despite Kylie seemingly being her favorite, Caitlyn hasn’t hesitated to make some rather unseemly comments. While she wasn’t targeting the new mom directly, she did say,
“She’s always wanted to be a mom. When she called me up, it was a little bit tough for her because obviously she’s not been married, but fortunately, she’s in a position where she can have a child and the child will be very well taken care of, She wanted to start a family, she wanted to start it young.
“You’re better off waiting [to have kids] and there’s no rush. I had my first child at 29 and I kind of had everything done,” she also added, according to Cosmopolitan.
8 BFFs Nonetheless
Despite Caitlyn’s comments, Kylie does appear to still be close with her father. In August, they did a rare make-up free advertisement the Kylie Cosmetics IG filter.
As Elle pointed out, “But the fact Caitlyn was included in this is a clever way on Kylie's part to make a statement about how present her birth father is in her life. On June 17, Father's Day, she additionally did a post dedicated to Caitlyn, writing, "so lucky to have you," in the caption. Her sister Kendall, Caitlyn's other birth daughter with Kris, didn't.”
7 But Wait - She Hasn't Even Met Stormi Yet
But is it all just for the cameras? According to a source, "She was really hoping to reconnect with the Kardashians, especially with Khloé and Kim having had babies, but sadly she hasn't met them, and she hasn't even got to spend much time with her new granddaughter Stormi [Kylie Jenner's baby]. She just wants some companionship and really felt all alone before she met Sophia."
If out of everyone, she is the closest to Kylie, then wouldn’t it make sense for her to be more present in her grandchild’s life as well?
6 Her Current Girlfriend Is The Same Age As Daughter Kylie
Although it hasn’t been addressed by either the Kardashians or the Jenners, there’s another aspect of the relationship that may have contributed to the friction between Caitlyn and her children: the fact that her girlfriend, Sophia Hutchins, is the exact same age as Kylie.
As The Mirror points out, she is 47 years Caitlyn’s junior. “The pair have [...] fallen in love, and it's said that Caitlyn even whisked Sophia away on a romantic holiday to Mexico last year.”
5 In Truth, Caitlyn Feels Isolated
Despite her new-found romance, Caitlyn has admitted to feeling lonely. In a recent Broadly interview, she revealed,
“I spend a lot of time by myself here in the house,” she said. “I have a lot of children, but sometimes just because of circumstances, maintaining a close relationship with your kids is very tough. They all have lives. They’ve all moved on.”
“We’re just human beings; we’re going to be here for a very short time,” Caitlyn later added. “We come and we go and at the end, when it’s all said and done, hopefully, your family is going to be there.”
4 Is There Hope In Kanye West?
Although Kanye is known for causing rifts, there’s actually a chance that he might be trying to repair the one between Caitlyn and her children. According to US Magazine, he has previously convinced Kim to be more accepting of her father by saying that he could have the perfect life, “But I'm nothing if I can't be me; if I can't be true to myself, they don't mean anything."
Just a few months ago, he also shared texts he exchanged with Caitlyn despite the fall-out with Kim.
3 A Possible Thawing
The exchange between Caitlyn and Kanye isn’t the only development in the celebrity feud as Caitlyn was also recently spotted having lunch with none other than Kourtney Kardashian and two of her children.
It hasn’t actually be confirmed that they had lunch together. Even the Daily Mail posed the question, “Coincidence? Kourtney and two of her children headed in one direction in the parking lot as Caitlyn and girlfriend Sophia Hutchins went in the other.”
However, it does seem to be the most likely scenario.
2 Still, The Jenners Are Her Favorites Over The Kardashians
Lunch with Kourtney or not, the fact remains that Caitlyn has recently been open about being much closer to the Jenner side of the family.
She told Sherri Shepherd, “Same with the Jenner side. Actually, lately, I've probably been a lot closer to the Jenner side -- my son, Brandon. Brody, somewhat. Burt, all those kids. My daughter, Casey, we've actually been really very good over the last year. We happened to get a lot closer. She's got three kids and doing just great."
1 Despite Everything, She Still Keeps Up With The Kardashians
From everything that has happened, it’s clear that Caitlyn has a certain fascination with the media. Not only has she said that she has had some of the best conversations with her children while the cameras were rolling but there’s also the claim she made in her book. According to Cosmopolitan, she revealed it was her “who came up with the idea of the show, not Kris.”
Speaking of the show, she also recently admitted to Sherri Shepherd that she still watches Keeping Up With The Kardashians.